I reached out to Milwaukee via their Facebook page and asked them when/if they'd be releasing more compact M12 fasteners a few weeks ago, and they told me nothing was in the works. That new compact gun is awesome! Keep in mind that the Makita Subcompact Hammer Drill is essentially a 12V tool strapped to an 18V battery. M12 Fuel impact is quite a bit heavier and the balance is a bit off. Â Amazing for an 18V system. Makita XSH04ZB LXt Sub-compact Cordless Circular Saw. No matter how good a 12v line is, it will never have the power of an 18v etc. Like I said in the intro, you’re going to see a ton more sub-compact models from Makita this year, like the Sub-Compact LXT Reciprocating Saw I used on the Built In Closet project. I've been using my 18v jigsaw for the last several weeks and though it ain't my Carvex it's an awesome portable saw. Makita Sub-Compact gives users 12-Volt handling with 18-Volt run time and compatibility with the worlds largest 18-Volt lithium-ion cordless tool system. Compact vs Regular. These tool offer power of an 18V, but the size of a 12V tool. Very nice controls. While all manufacturers have a compact drill on the market, I can’t find one that competes with the Makita. Its size, which is even smaller than other compact 18V models, makes it incredibly lightweight and compact. One cool feature to the impact is the modes located at the base of the tool. M12 fuel combo for 169 at HD, great price thereSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, They are long overdue for a refresh, it's probably coming soon. Just wanted to get some opinions on which way to go between the 12v brushless Fuel impact/hammer drill combo kit by Milwaukee and Makita's 18v brushless sub-compact drill/impact combo. I'm trying to decide which tool set is best for my woodworking needs and I'm surprised that I can't find many video reviews on the black/white compact combo CT322W. One of the great things about 12v tools is their ergonomics. It's awesome. Editorial Note: Tools in Action receives compensation from third-party advertisers, but that doesnât affect our editors’ opinions. http://www.homedepot.com/s/milwaukee%20m12%20free?NCNI-5. Charging is slow.... Makita has made a very nice sub compact set. The assist mode is friggin phenomenal for touch up work but will drive large fasteners easily. It will be for only these kits. You have entered an incorrect email address! This isn't to say the Fuel isn't good (it certainly is), but I knew I made the right decision the minute I sank my first screw. I have to agree I still prefer a tool that has a little weight to it. Their social media team will say nothing about anything that hasn't been formally announced. The 36v is a good selling point on the Makitas. Makita is the obvious choice to me. Â You can pick this kit up at The Home Depot and the kit comes with a drill, impact, two batteries and a charger. The only reason to buy the Milwaukee is practicality, there's a huge m12 lineup. One thing that's really awkward about the 12v Fuels are their angled chucks on both the drill and impact. I'm not a big fan of Milwaukee but it's semantics at this point! Milwaukee has a sale at my Home Depot where the 12v Fuel is $169, while Makita's sub-compact kit comes with a free third battery for $229. I like my M12 stuff but the Fuel M12 stuff isn't very compact anymore comparatively. Once you pick this tool up, you will understand why I feel this is the drill to own. It also includes two BL1820B 18V LXT Lithium-Ion compact 2.0Ah batteries and the DC18RC Rapid Optimum Charger. Agree, I like the M12 Fuel tools as well, as they are perfect garage use. The assist mode is worth the difference in the kits alone, and it operates smoother and quieter. I don’t think so. They were groundbreaking when they were released but their size hasn't aged well. Two-Handed: Makita 18V LXT Brushless Sub-Compact Reciprocating Saw. I'm going to go with the Makita. I use some at work, but I usually keep the M18 handy for those particular tasks. I love the Milwaukee M12 Fuel tools. If you were blindfolded and you picked up these tools, you would assume they were 12V tools, they are that small and lightweight. The 1/2-inch drill-driver is 6-3/8-inch long, boasts a mechanical variable 2-speed transmission of 0-500 and 0-1,700 RPM, and weights 2.8 pounds including the 18V battery. Makita Subcompact Review – Final Thoughts. Makita ; Compact vs Regular Sign in to follow this . The compact size combined with the Makita-built brushless motor delivers up to 5, 000 RPM and a superior power-to-weight ratio. Makita created a new class in cordless with Makita created a new class in cordless with 18-Volt LXT Sub-Compact tools. Dewalt Combo Kit Review – 20V Drill & Impact, Makita Combo Kit Review – Drill Driver and Impact Driver, Milwaukee Drill Driver Revisit Plus Impact Driver. The 18V sub-compact driver-drill and impact driver are a new category of compact, with the weight and size of lower voltage power tools but with the compatibility, power, and performance of 18V. i dont have a problem at all with my m12 fuel system, i have five tools inside a milwaukee hard case along with four lights, two chargers and a bunch of batteries.cant do that with my 18 volt dewalt system. Â I still like cases for my tools. I tried hard to find something I don’t like … Skil has the weight advantage, better than 1.5 pounds lighter than Makita. It's also the cheapest of the trio. I'm slightly leaning Makita to begin with. Â I just think they are that nice. I know Milwaukee's 12v Fuel has been out for 3-4 years, but they told me they don't have any plans to come out with newer versions of their Fuel fasteners. Clear editor. 00 As of this month their last addition/edition are the Sub compact “Hammer drills” — XPH11ZB and DHP483ZB. Makita XSH04ZB 18V LXT Sub-Compact Brushless 6-1/2" Circular Saw I'll have to purchase a hook. Is this common? I’ve been looking at some of the smaller drills and after a lot of debate I think 12v will work for me. Â This is where you’re wrong. I’m a DIYer but want quality features and long lasting performance. Much better than the impact for overall performance. The compact size combined with the Makita-built brushless motor delivers up to 5,000 RPM and a superior power-to-weight ratio. The XBP05ZB is a sub-compact cutting solution designed for one-handed operation in tight spaces and overhead cutting applications. DeWalt has a 20V MAX tool kit consisting of five tools: a cordless drill, compact driver, flashlight, circular saw, and grinder. trying to decide between the subcompact or M12 gen2 combo kit any advice. I know its probably all mental and I'm sure manufacturer are using new light weight materials that are just as strong. Even mentioned the fact that their Fuel drill/driver in particular is longer than most compact 18v drills these days. I have the brushless barrel grip 18v jigsaw, their new brushless 18v recip, the brushless 18v sander and the new compact impact gun. Sub-Compact Cutting and Ripping The Sub-Compact 6-1/2” Circular Saw has a compact and ergonomic design at only 10-5/8” and 6.4 lbs. But I'm just looking for something compact at the moment, and there isn't anything planned there and their 12v line is weak akin to DeWalt but with marginally better support. The Makita 18V LXT Sub-Compact Combo Kit is the perfect – and right now, only – solution for the Pro who insists on carrying both heavy-duty and truly compact cordless tools every day without having to buy into a separate battery platform. I've also got the brushless grinder and the 36v chainsaw. The Sub-Compact 6-1/2” Circular Saw has a compact and ergonomic design at only 10-5/8” and 6. if so go Makita. Lots of power for the size tool. The toolkit from Makita comprises of 5 tools with 18V XLT, including a hammer driver drill, impact driver, recipro saw, circular saw, and xenon flashlight. The noise level of the M12 is also crazy high. Batteries have the fuel gauge so you don't need the tool to see capacity. Both the drill and impact offer a ton of power for their size. Read our Editorial GuidelinesÂ to learn more about our team. I was gonna say... 18v Makita lineup is pretty big too. When you squeeze, the back of grip it feels like it pushes away from your hand. March 21, 2017 in Power Tools. Balance is a little off, but nothing bad enough to worry about. This has been on my wish list for some time now. but that weight can be a good thing too.I dont know,, i just have a problem with tools that defy gravity. It's one of the many reasons I returned my Kobalt 24v drill; the chuck kept spinning and it wouldn't retain my bit after I let off the trigger. So does this spell the end for the 12-volt tool class? The feel in the hand is awesome. The driver is only 2.8 lbs while the impact is only 2.6 lbs. i have an old milwaukee 9inch grinder thats weighs 14.8 lbs. Â These tools are awesome. The only major flaw is the lack of a hammer option. T, Well the obvious counter would be: Makita's 18V system is triple the size of Milwaukee's 12V. These tools are awesome for hanging cabinets and a ton of other applications. Great balance and grip feel. Speaking of weight, I like the larger base of the 18v compared to the torpedo-style batteries. The M12 Fuel hammer drill is actually pretty damn good. Yes but the m12 lineup is bigger than the Makita 18v compact line. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk. The charger for your m18s will work for the m12, so you aren't adding a charger. You cannot paste images directly. The drill offers 2 speeds (0-500 & 0-1,700 RPM) and the impact offersÂ (0-1,300/0-3,000 RPM). Nice Review. Â Personally, I think Makita broke the mold with the subcompact platform. The drill is lightweight and feels great in your hands. As far as weight, the tool only weighs 2.8 lbs and that is with a battery. If Makita wanted to, I think they could have charged a premium and gotten away with it. Just wanted to get some opinions on which way to go between the 12v brushless Fuel impact/hammer drill combo kit by Milwaukee and Makita's 18v brushless sub-compact drill/impact combo. Great review I just ran across this page. Of all the comparisons to make I don't think this one stands up. note: made some quick 2x4 cuts and it … Â This kit has been on the market for a while and we have heard a ton of feedback.Â It’s clear this is a winning tool and we wanted to make sure it gets its respect from the tool world. Display as a link instead, × Â At The Home Depot, you can pick this kit up for about $240 which includes the drill, impact, two 2Ah batteries, a charger and a bag. I also found the grip of the M12 fuel to be a bit small and odd fitting. These tools are compact, lightweight and offer plenty of power. Makita finishes with a slight advantage over Skil in the overall size race. Lastly, Milwaukee has more sales and that leads to better deals on eBay for new tools sold from kit splitters. We need to go Sub-Compact! Chuck for wobble too! The lightweight and compact design are certainly there along with performance that exceeds most 12-volt tools. Hitachi really seems to be bringing new tools to the market lately. The M12 stuff is good, but heavy and the balance is odd. Excited! torque and the impact offers 1,240 in.lbs. Â The drill offersÂ 350 in.lbs. × Makita XFD10R 18V Compact Lithium-Ion Cordless Driver Drill Kit On the other side of the fence, we have a brushed cordless driver drill from Makita that produces incredible strength for its size. There new stuff looks great. Makita has the advantage with a length that’s nearly 4″ shorter than Skil and close to an inch shorter than DeWalt. and length of 7.25 inches, it can deliver as much as 480 in. Large selection of 12 volt tools by Milwaukee also. Just used the sub-compact 18v impact driver today. The CX200RB combo kit contains the XFD11ZB compact drill/driver and the XDT15ZB impact driver. The 18V Sub-Compact Impact Driver is part of a new class of compact, with the size and weight of lower voltage tools but with the performance, power and compatibility of 18-Volt. Haven’t used it myself yet, but all the reviews are stellar and I’m glad I bought it. Both of these deals are limited time, so I'd greatly appreciate honest opinions. Tools in Action Plus Enter to Win Future Tool Giveaways! While all manufacturers have a compact drill on the market, I can’t find one that competes with the Makita. Similar to the three previous models, this Makita XSH04ZB runs on the slide-style lithium-ion batteries known for having the fastest charge times. of torque. Itâs accurate to the best of our knowledge when posted. Performance, size and weight is practically indistinguishable on these two units. Makita drill/driver premium vs compact vs sub-compact. Eric is a huge Cubs fans and no, he is not related to Chevy Chase. Charging is super fast. Keep posting in this thread though, as I'm sure others are likely in the same boat with both promotions going on! Â I tried hard to find something I don’t like about them, but even with a low price tag, it’s hard to beat. Your previous content has been restored. Check out the price of the Makita RT0701C compact router. Do you want a hand held planer, sander, or other wood working tools? Â A ton of speed and power for most daily applications. The chuck has a nice ratchet feel, doesn't loosen either. I had the Fuel and now have the Makita subcompact. CATERPILLAR 598 CATERPILLAR 598 Tool Extraordinaire; Members; 598 … It's light, compact and super comfortable to use. Â If I had to be picky, it would be the bag. Aaron, I don't have a lot of Makita tools but the ones I do own are wonderful tools. While he loves remodeling his house, his passion is spending time with his wife and two children. Torque is great considering the size. You can post now and register later. Plus the assist mode is actually quite quiet. Makita 18v LXT XSH04 6-1/2″ Circular Saw. For me it was simple. If you were to pick up these tools, I promise you that your first thoughts would be they feel good and they are cool, but won’t perform much work. A smaller, more compact design isn’t always good enough. Makita Sub Compact Circular Saw Review Overview. They both feel great ergonomically, and appear to have similar specs. By But it depends on what tools you want. The new 18V LXT Sub-Compact Brushless includes the most compact and lightest weight tools in the 18V category, giving contractors the size and handling of a 12-volt tool with the performance, power and compatibility of 18 volt. Â The tools are designed with an incredibleÂ feel to them. If you aren’t familiar with them, the sub-compact line is a smaller tool, that packs a powerful punch and still uses their 18V battery. There is more plastic and aluminum making it lighter, but not as durable. The impact has 2 speeds and Cam out mode, with led control. Never used the Makita compact tools though. The Makita 18V LXT Sub-Compact Brushless The Makita 18V LXT Sub-Compact Brushless Cordless Portable Band Saw (XBP05ZB, tool only) delivers cordless metal cutting power in a compact size. But it was one of those things where you couldn’t have power and compact. 4 lbs. If you need a simple comparison, I can give you my personal experience and observations. How can you even sleep at night Makita? the feel of the m12 along with the build quality is what sold me on the system. I bought the set for my dad for $200 from HD, which is the present price. Paste as plain text instead, × Â The impact has an IPM rating of 0-1,600/0-3,900 IPM which means you can use this for a wide range of fasteners. Milwaukee has the new version out which we will be reviewing soon. (with 18V LXT Compact 2. i like to feel the tool in my hand, maufactures are being pressed so hard to make things lighter and smaller, some of the new tools i pick up today are so light, that they feel really cheap, thats not for me, but thats me talking. Â When on this setting the tool controls itself to help eliminate cam out and cross threading by driving at low speeds. Â However, they chose to offer an incredible value for these. Isn't the deal from HD $169 with a free tool or 4.0 battery? In addition to having better ergonomics, I've found that the drill is superior (non-spinning chuck, shorter length) and the impact is as well (assist mode, slightly higher torque). It's very clacky sounding too. Re: Hitachi, they're indeed killing it of late; their Triple Hammer is my Rolls Royce of power tools. Your link has been automatically embedded. The most glaring and annoying thing about the Makita impact is that it doesn't have a quick load collet. 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